Rimbun Dahan stories with Bilqis Hijjas

A conversation with Bilqis Hijjas to uncover the stories of Rimbun Dahan
from the perspective of an art critic/ choreographer/ residency program
manager, and the daughter of Ar Hijjas Kasturi, architect behind Rimbun
Dahan, while delving into the transformation of Rimbun Dahan from a
private residence to a world-renowned arts centre

Interview by Ar Lee Sze-ee

SE

Hi, Bilqis. Thank you for accepting our interview invitation from Architecture Malaysia. Rimbun Dahan is known as the home of architect Hijjas Kasturi and his family. How does it feel for you, as a family member, to live here at Rimbun Dahan?
BH
We moved here when I was 11 years old and I grew up here during my teenage years. At that point, it looked very different from what it does now because the site had previously been a dusun (orchard). My mother decided to transform it, and eventually turned into a native planting garden. All the trees have been planted in the last 30 years and were not originally here. When we arrived here, some of the buildings that my dad designed were already in place, but the environment indeed looked very different. At that time, Rimbun Dahan and the Kuang area were very remote from Kuala Lumpur (KL); it felt like a different place, a small town outside of KL. Now, KL has expanded so much that we are essentially being absorbed into the outer residential areas of the Klang Valley. Many highways have been built in the last 30 years, so it now feels more connected to the rest of the city and less isolated compared to the early 90s. As things have changed around us, this place has become very different from what it was 30 years ago.
Rimbun Dahan in the early 90s. Angela Hijjas and staff member Raslan bin Hamzah on the front driveway. Photo courtesy of Bilqis Hijjas

SE

The environment has changed over time. How about the architecture and buildings within the site? How have they changed since it was first established?
BH

We’ve had quite a lot of changes. Initially, my dad built two semi-detached cottages containing four homes, which are used for staff accommodation. Those houses are now the oldest structures on-site, built before anything else. There are simple, functional two-bedroom cottages. We also use one of them for artist residency.

Subsequently, my dad built the main house for himself, the guest house, and the walkway between the main house and the guest house, as well as some garage spaces. This was the first phase in the early 90s. It initially began with artists staying in the guest house, which was already built at that time. But my parents quickly realised that artists preferred their own living spaces. In this context, they had to share a kitchen and studio space, which was not the best way to support artists. It would be better to provide them with more space and privacy to allow them to develop their work more effectively.

The Main house and swimming pool. Photo courtesy of Bilqis Hijjas

 BH

Next, my dad built another building, which is now the studio building. It is a two-storey structure with a dance studio on half of the upper level. The other half of the upper level consists of two studio apartments for artists to live in, each equipped with a tiny kitchenette, a small bathroom, and a balcony. On the lower level of the studio building, we have converted it entirely into studios, giving us five visual art studios, one of which is used by a maintenance man for his workshop. This allows us to accommodate four visual artists working on the lower level in individual private studios at any one time. The studio building was constructed in 1996.

Then, in the late 90s or early 2000s, we added the heritage houses at the back of the property. One of them is from Penang and is approximately 100 years old, while the other one is from Perak, known as Rumah Uda Manap, and is around 120 years old. We now use these houses for artist accommodation. This is how Rimbun Dahan has evolved architecturally over the past 30 years. We’ve also undergone several rounds of renovation to better cater to the artists’ needs and make the spaces more suitable for them to work.

SE

It is interesting to see how, initially, an architectural project for a private residence gradually transformed into a venue for an artist residency programme. Could you please share with us how the residency programme was started?

 BH

My dad has always been interested in visual arts and might have wanted to be a painter, except that he grew up extremely poor during the Second World War. Being a painter is not a very stable occupation, and he was offered the opportunity to become an architect, which, at that time, was a very lucrative profession. He wholeheartedly embraced that opportunity, but I believe his interest in the arts never waned. With a passion for art, he also wanted to support other artists in their practice, so he encouraged my mom to start the residency programme for artists.

My mum is from Australia, so we have family ties to Australia. And, because my dad received the Colombo Plan Scholarship to study in Australia, which greatly transformed his life, he felt a strong obligation to give back to Australia for the opportunities it provided him. When we first started the residency programme, we only hosted two artists, one from Australia and one from Malaysia, both staying for an entire year.

However, our programme has evolved. Now, we primarily support artists from Southeast Asia, with shorter residencies typically lasting one to three months. In addition to visual artists, we also welcome sculptors, writers, composers, contemporary dance choreographers, and many other multidisciplinary artists. The program has shifted over time and may continue to change.

Studio building, built in 1996. Photo taken by Sze-ee
Australian visual artist Laura Wills in a visual art studio, 2017. Photo by Ian Teh
Rumah Uda Manap, a 120 years old Heritage House from Perak. Photo by Sze-ee
SE
Ar. Hijjas Kasturi is an award-winning, renowned architect. Could you please share with us his philosophy and design ideas behind Rimbun Dahan?

 BH

Yes, when we looked at it, you can see that much of it is influenced by the vernacular Malay traditional aesthetic. Many of these design elements are solutions to practical problems rooted in indigenous knowledge. The pitched roof, for instance, effectively handles heavy rainfall. By incorporating these elements from vernacular architecture, my dad aimed to ensure a strong local identity and a sense of place in all his designs, this identity is retained in the general shape of the buildings.

In the main house, we also feature a layered roof design, similar to the Malay roof design, known as Gajah Menyusu, which resembles a larger building next to a smaller one, like a baby elephant alongside its mother. Instead of a single, massive block, the spaces are divided into smaller elements, each with its little roof. This creates the appearance of a cluster of buildings rather than one enormous structure. This design concept is certainly derived from traditional Malay wooden houses.

And my parents also decided not to use wood for the construction of the buildings. This choice is primarily based on affordability because forest hardwood is very expensive and quite scarce. There is also the issue of environmental conservation; we prefer not to use these resources for construction when we have other options that might be more durable, cost-effective, and easier to work with. As a result, the main structural material is concrete. My dad is quite well-known for his work with concrete, and many of his buildings from the 80s and 90s, including the very tall high-rise structures, are constructed with concrete. Concrete is his favourite material for design, and I believe he wanted to create something here that allowed him to express his own identity and continue to do so in terms of design.

Sakinah by Indonesian sculptor Ahmad Osni Peii in the circle of ‘plong’ trees. Photo by Sze-ee

 BH

Some parts of the house feature a steel frame structure, which you can see in the protruding beams. My dad decided to turn these beams into architectural features of their own. They don’t have to be protruding, they don’t have to be joined, but he chose to do so to make them visible, sort of highlighting the structural bones of the house. Additionally, they were painted a different colour to emphasise them as a designed element.

You can also see that many of the surface finishes are Shanghai plaster, which at that time was considered a local method for finishing concrete. Nowadays, it’s quite unusual because the skilled labour required to produce Shanghai plaster has become scarce. Back then, it was crafted by highly skilled Chinese construction workers, mostly women, who had the skills to work with Shanghai plaster. We no longer see Shanghai plaster used as a finish because the artisan workers have mostly stopped working, and subsequent generations haven’t been trained in this craft. The Shanghai plaster is a very durable surface; everything you see here has not been refinished at any point. These are all finishes that are 30 years old.

Also, our house doesn’t have air conditioning. My dad drew inspiration from traditional houses when considering how to deal with issues of heat and climate. This involved aligning the house with the direction of the sun and ensuring sufficient ventilation to encourage cooling. Today, with the presence of the tropical garden environment, which didn’t exist at the time, we benefit from the plants cooling the air. Consequently, in our very open-plan context, the temperature remains comfortable, and we don’t need air-conditioning. Fan cooling is used in almost all spaces, with only a few exceptions.

Steel structure of the loggia, which connects the main house and the guest house. Ar. Hijjas Kasturi in loggia. Photo courtesy of Bilqis Hijjas

SE

You’ve shared architectural design ideas for the buildings. What about the placement or siting of the buildings on such a large plot of land?

 BH

The placement of the buildings was largely influenced by pre-existing elements on the site. My dad was very keen on integrating concrete structures into the natural landscape rather than making significant changes to the site. For instance, the pond was pre-existing. On one side of the square plot, there’s the main road, so my dad positioned the main house a sufficient distance away from the main road to minimise noise disruption. This setup creates an immediate feeling of a front garden filled with foliage. When you drive up the long driveway, it does not lead directly to the house, and the house isn’t visible from the road. Instead, you get a sense of entering and meandering into the space.

SE

Rimbun Dahan is one of the most renowned artist residency programs in Malaysia. What makes Rimbun Dahan a unique and captivating place for artists?

 BH

We have been running for 30 years since 1994, making us one of the oldest artist residencies in Southeast Asia and also one of the largest, if not the oldest. Over time, we’ve adapted our programme to cater to the changing needs of the art communities. Thus, our functions have not remained static.

For artists in general, having dedicated time to develop their practice and focus on their artistic vision and future direction is of utmost importance. We do not demand any specific outcome from them, so our approach is not oriented toward the final product. It’s primarily about the process and artistic development. Artists can utilise their time here to explore and experiment as they wish. We believe that it’s more interesting and impactful in the long run if artists use this time to allow their curiosity to take them in various directions and embrace opportunities to experiment, even if it leads to failures. We want to allow space for failure, to allow space for growth.

We are a popular destination for artists. Our annual open call typically runs from August to September, and this year, we had nearly 80 applications. However, due to our family-funded and family-run operation, we can only accommodate 16 artists next year. I think the high number of applications shows the ongoing demand for a space like this among artists, as they believe it is valuable for them.

The pre-existing pond in the early 90s. Photo courtesy of Bilqis Hijjas

SE

Besides providing a place and spaces for the artists to experiment and to grow, do you provide other forms of support for their artistic careers?

 BH

We don’t provide specific support because artists have individual needs that vary widely. We’re available for discussions about practices if they want to, but some artists prefer solitude and time to focus on their work. We provide them with some, I would say enrichment. My mother will often take them on a garden tour to share about indigenous Southeast Asian garden practices, biodiversity and conservation. We also have a collection of artworks from previous resident artists, which serves as an inspiring resource. For those interested in textiles or heritage culture from the Southeast Asian region, we have a collection of heritage textiles from the Malay Nusantara region. Our library is also accessible, providing a valuable resource for exploration and inspiration during the creative process.

SE

As a residency programme manager, how does the architecture of Rimbun Dahan enhance the experience of artists across various art disciplines?

 BH

For many artists who have lived in urban environments, the natural setting here can be an entirely new experience. Due to the open-plan design of the buildings, you constantly feel immersed in a tropical garden. It’s not something you can ignore; It’s something you are embedded in. We have quite a lot of insects and animals, and they often come into the houses. Learning to live with these creatures is certainly one of the challenges, and it’s a unique experience to be in this residency. You’re somewhat required to adjust your practice to this context. Also, because we don’t have air-conditioning, you become more attuned to and somewhat governed by the weather.

SE

These are indeed interesting experiences and have a positive impact on the artists at Rimbun Dahan. How about the impact of Rimbun Dahan in a broader context, specifically on the surrounding area or the development of Kuang?

 BH

We do have open days occasionally, allowing the public to come in, walk around, and observe the artists and their studios. However, we’ve found that it generally attracts people from KL who are interested in either the tropical garden or contemporary arts. We don’t often receive many visitors from the immediate region. In the past, we had some small outreach programs for young people, but we no longer offer these due to the significant resources and dedicated personnel required.

We are not designed to be a public space; we are a home. Ensuring safety, security, and privacy is a challenge when opening up to the public. We have open water areas, but can’t afford the cost of a pool attendant or lifeguard. There are inherent risks, and we can only open to the public on a very limited basis.

Balletbase performing at Dancing in Place. Photo by Nazir Azhari

SE

Rimbun Dahan serves as a nurturing ground for artists, having seen more than 100 artists ‘graduated’ from its programs over the past 30 years. In your opinion, what elements contribute to Rimbun Dahan’s success as a project in the art scene?

 BH

I think in terms of the sustainability of the programme, it has to do with our genuine interest as a family in supporting artists and our flexible approach. This approach often leads to surprising and exciting outcomes that we could never have imagined. It is crucial to maintain flexibility and listen to the artists, giving them the freedom to pursue their artistic visions. So, having a flexible mindset and attitude towards the artists is the most important aspect when considering running a residency programme.

SE

Besides visual art, we understand your passion for dancing and performance art. As a choreographer, how do you view Rimbun Dahan’s contribution to the performance art scene?

 BH

We used to run a programme called Dancing in Place, which we still hope to continue. This is a site-specific dance performance where people create their dance works to be performed in particular sites, rather than in a traditional theatre context. These performances take place in built locations or natural sites. So, with the Dancing in Place program, we would feature around 13 dance works in the gardens or by the swimming pool, allowing the audience to move around and watch the performances. We’ve organized this event here several times, and it provides dance artists with an opportunity to truly engage with the architecture in ways we couldn’t have imagined.
Southeast Asian Choreolab 2018. Photo by Huneid Tyeb

SE

Rimbun Dahan is truly a place of boundless potential. Is there any specific mission or goal that you or your family aim to achieve here at Rimbun Dahan?

 BH

Not anything highly specific, but in general, our goal is to support the development of contemporary art and the preservation of heritage art, with a primary focus on the Southeast Asian region. We believe that there is not enough targeted assistance for this region, especially in fostering connections and networks between artists from various countries in Southeast Asia. National governments often fund their artists, and international support tends to come from Europe, which aims to connect Southeast Asian artists to European countries. But there are very few resources dedicated to connecting Southeast Asian artists across national boundaries in this region.

This is a place where we feel we have a unique opportunity to fulfil that role. We feel that it is required because, otherwise, even if we live next to each other, we may have no experience of visiting each other or having the opportunity to immerse in each other’s culture. We feel like this is a really important role that we can play.

SE

BesThat’s great. I very much agree with the importance of cultural exchange within our region. As we’re nearing the end of our interview, could you please share with us any upcoming plans or expansion projects for this 14-acre Rimbun Dahan that readers and visitors can look forward to?

 BH

Currently, we hold arboretum status and are registered with the global network of arboreta, which are research institutions for plants, specifically focused on tree biodiversity. This is an achievement we are proud of, obtained earlier this year. We have been collaborating with forestry experts, such as the Forestry Research Institute of Malaysia and Singapore Botanic Gardens. Over the past 30 years, my mom has been diligently planting in the garden, and we are now working to provide a more structured environment for environmental science, supporting conservation efforts.

As of now, we have a substantial stock of trees, with several thousand on-site, approximately 425 different species, including hundreds of hardwoods and slow-growing forest trees. These living resources are of great importance to the broader community. We hope to sustain them and leverage them for future projects.

SE

Congratulations on the arboretum status, and thank you so much for your time. It’s been a pleasure learning about Rimbun Dahan and your dedication to contemporary arts and heritage conservation.

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